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Here is a set of e-mails received from someone who was invited to advertise their business on Europafind Directory FREE LISTING. The result ended up being NOT FREE, and the character tells the tale how it is. The following is without prejudice a collection of information written by the customer, and the identities have been removed so as to avoid prejudicing any possible court case which the customer may take up against Europafind Search Engine.
Hi,
It all started when I received an email inviting me to add my business to the Europafind directory. A free listing. I signed up with a number of my own internet businesses, added his link to each of my sites, clicked on his email link for each one and forgot all about it until I received his first email demand. This was for the business he first invited, not the other ones. Since then I've been bombarded with emails demanding money. And that's as far as it's got.
I've been in contact since then with the local newspaper in Pforzheim in the Black Forest, where he lives, and reported his dubious dealings. I've asked them to look into it and to send me the German Police Fraud Squad address. I'm just waiting to hear now.
I had an email from someone else who has had a problem with this man and he said he'd reported it to the German Trade department who said to send them any details he has as they already knew about Peter Kurz and would take it to the police.
I hope this helps to stop Peter Kurz and bear in mind, anything I can do to help, just contact me.
Regards,
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Europafind Yellow
Hi,
I got your address from this page and thought I'd write to you - http://www.zyra.org.uk/cleuropa.htm
I have had Peter Kurz trying to scam money out of me for a reciprocal link, but needless to say I'm not paying a penny. His latest business aliases are as follows: Europafind Yellow, PK Yellow, Business Yellow, Yellow International. The url is: http://212.184.71.244:345 I have enclosed details of the 40 emails he has sent me from 24/5/03 until 12/7/03 just below this email for your information.
Regards,
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We have changed your listing to NOT YET
RECOMMENDED
also the link to your site was unabled till our fees are payed.
See our terms of use: In case of late payment we have to charge
interest (1.95% p.m)
additional to a handling fee of 1 Euro/month.
We also have to add all other costs like lawyer fees, court fees,
collection firm fees.
We also have to add the cost of investigations in case the
address is false.
The first urging letter costs 3.00 Euro, the second urging letter
7.00 Euro
and the third urging letter 10.00 Euro.
To pay online for your EUROPA BUSINESS listing click on the
following link!!!
http:// link carefully
removed
We have logged IP from where the order was made.
Date and Time when your IP was logged is also stored
A Link Back (reciprocal link) as required on our registration
page for a free basic listing was not made or reported by you
within 3 days after registration.
According to our pricelist, which you can find on our
registration page http://212.184.71.244:345/register.php
we have to charge US$ 45.00 for one year listing without link
back (reciprocal link).
Our staff is not authorized to destroy accounts!
In case you want to destroy your account goto http://212.184.71.244:345/destroyaccount.asp
We can not answer emails asking to destroy accounts by our staff!
Your Price = 45.00 US$ per year for EUROPA BUSINESS basic listing
Additional = 3.00 US$ first reminder.
Additional = 7.00 US$ second reminder.
Thank You for Your Order.
Best Regards
Your EUROPA BUSINESS -Team
In case you cannot pay online, please use the following
informations:
Please transfer the Total Amount of US$ 55.00 within 3 days
stating your Invoice-Number to our following
Address where to send money by Western Union (westernunion.com)
or cash:(registered letter)
Peter Kurz
Schlossberg 19
D-75175 Pforzheim
Germany
We thank you for using our service.
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See our terms of use: In case of late payment
we have to charge interest (1.95% p.m) additional to
a handling fee of 1 Euro/month.
We also have to add all other costs like lawyer fees, court fees,
collection firm fees.
We also have to add the cost of investigations in case the
address is false.
The first urging letter costs 3.00 Euro, the second urging letter
7.00 Euro
and the third urging letter 10.00 Euro.
To pay online for your EUROPA BUSINESS listing click on the
following link!!!
http:// link carefully
removed
We have logged IP from where the order was made.
Date and Time when your IP was logged is also stored
A Link Back (reciprocal link) as required on our registration
page for a free basic listing was not made or reported by you
within 3 days after registration.
According to our pricelist, which you can find on our
registration page http://212.184.71.244:345/register.php
we have to charge US$ 45.00 for one year listing without link
back (reciprocal link).
Our staff is not authorized to destroy accounts!
In case you want to destroy your account goto http://212.184.71.244:345/destroyaccount.asp
We can not answer emails asking to destroy accounts by our staff!
Your Price = 45.00 US$ per year for EUROPA BUSINESS basic listing
Additional = 3.00 US$ first reminder.
Additional = 7.00 US$ this reminder.
Thank You for Your Order.
Best Regards
Your EUROPA BUSINESS -Team
In case you cannot pay online, please use the following
informations:
Please transfer the Total Amount of US$ 55.00 within 3 days
stating your Invoice-Number to our following
Address where to send money by Western Union (westernunion.com)
or cash:(registered letter)
Peter Kurz
Schlossberg 19
D-75175 Pforzheim
Germany
We thank you for using our service.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
See our terms of use: In case of late payment
we have to charge interest (1.95% p.m) additional to
a handling fee of 1 Euro/month.
We also have to add all other costs like lawyer fees, court fees,
collection firm fees.
We also have to add the cost of investigations in case the
address is false.
The first urging letter costs 3.00 Euro, the second urging letter
7.00 Euro
and the third urging letter 10.00 Euro.
To pay online for your EUROPA BUSINESS listing click on the
following link!!!
http:// link carefully
removed
We have logged IP from where the order was made.
Date and Time when your IP was logged is also stored
A Link Back (reciprocal link) as required on our registration
page for a free basic listing was not made or reported by you
within 3 days after registration.
According to our pricelist, which you can find on our
registration page http://212.184.71.244:345/register.php
we have to charge US$ 45.00 for one year listing without link
back (reciprocal link).
Our staff is not authorized to destroy accounts!
In case you want to destroy your account goto http://212.184.71.244:345/destroyaccount.asp
We can not answer emails asking to destroy accounts by our staff!
Your Price = 45.00 US$ per year for EUROPA BUSINESS basic listing
Additional = 3.00 US$ this reminder.
Thank You for Your Order.
Best Regards
Your EUROPA BUSINESS -Team
In case you cannot pay online, please use the following
informations:
Please transfer the Total Amount of US$ 48.00 within 3 days
stating your Invoice-Number to our following
Address where to send cash:(registered letter)
Peter Kurz
Schlossberg 19
D-75175 Pforzheim
Germany
We thank you for using our service.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
See our terms of use: In case of late payment
we have to charge interest (1.95% p.m) additional to
a handling fee of 1 Euro/month.
We also have to add all other costs like lawyer fees, court fees,
collection firm fees.
We also have to add the cost of investigations in case the
address is false.
The first urging letter costs 3.00 Euro, the second urging letter
7.00 Euro
and the third urging letter 10.00 Euro.
To pay online for your EUROPA BUSINESS listing click on the
following link!!!
http:// link carefully
removed
We have logged IP from where the order was made.
Date and Time when your IP was logged is also stored
A Link Back (reciprocal link) as required on our registration
page for a free basic listing was not made or reported to http://212.184.71.244:345/link2us.asp by you within 3 days after registration.
According to our pricelist, which you can find on our
registration page http://212.184.71.244:345/register.php
we have to charge US$ 45.00 for one year listing without link
back (reciprocal link).
Our staff is not authorized to destroy accounts!
In case you want to destroy your account goto http://212.184.71.244:345/destroyaccount.asp
We can not answer emails asking to destroy accounts by our staff!
Your Price = 45.00 US$ per year for EUROPA BUSINESS basic listing
Thank You for Your Order.
Best Regards
Your EUROPA BUSINESS -Team
In case you cannot pay online, please use the following
informations:
Please transfer the Total Amount of US$ 45.00 within 3 days
stating your Invoice-Number to our following
Address where to send cash:(registered letter)
Peter Kurz
Schlossberg 19
D-75175 Pforzheim
Germany
We thank you for using our service.
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So, this person is not going to be paying, and is possibly going to be taking Europafind to court. If you have requested a service and you have received good service, then it's best to pay up. However, if you believe you are being persecuted into paying for something that you don't owe, then DON'T PAY!
Also see Europa Club Search Engine
There's now a website about the problem at http://www.geocities.com/thewhistlebloweruk/Europafind/index.html (gone)
Do you think this is starting to have a similarity to the matter about Getty Images ?!